Dr. Tom Incledon: “To beat diseases worldwide, let’s start a movement for everyone to get free blood work done every six months”

I’d start a movement that everyone gets free bloodwork done every six months. Unless of course something is required sooner. This database of information would be used to help everyone beat diseases worldwide, for free. With this, everyone could contribute their gifts that’d improve Earth’s future for all mankind. It’s just hard to be at […]

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I’d start a movement that everyone gets free bloodwork done every six months. Unless of course something is required sooner. This database of information would be used to help everyone beat diseases worldwide, for free. With this, everyone could contribute their gifts that’d improve Earth’s future for all mankind. It’s just hard to be at your best if you’re not healthy.

I had the pleasure of interviewing Dr. Thomas Incledon, CEO and Founder of Causenta Wellness. Dr. Incledon holds a B.S. in Exercise Science, B.S. in Nutrition, M.S. in Kinesiology, and Ph.D. in Exercise Physiology. Since 1989, Dr. Tom Incledon has been recognized as one of the world’s leading experts in the areas of human health and athletic performance. As founder and CEO of Causenta Wellness, he oversees a cutting-edge wellness and cancer treatment center in Scottsdale, Arizona. Dr. Tom helps individuals from all walks of life to understand the cause of their health issues and move toward optimal health.

Thank you so much for joining us Dr. Incledon. What is the interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?

Well, my career started early! I’ve been working since I was 5 as was a paperboy. I grew up in a very poor community in New York, my mom was a single mother, she was very sick and I needed to help. No one was healthy in my community, no one had ambitions or dreams, which is what fueled my interest in helping people to be fit and healthy. My newspaper job was very tough; in fact, I got beaten up by bigger and stronger kids almost every day on my paper routes. But that didn’t make me give up from the job. In fact, I started subcontracting employees by age six. I was helping my boss run a company at age 12. I competed at a National level for powerlifting before I was 20, and I was a self-made millionaire by age 21. There was a point, however, that I thought a $40,000 a year salary meant that I was rich. It was more money than anyone in my family or around me in my community had ever made.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

My biggest lesson came from my job at Radio Shack when I was 16, I learned the life-long lesson of the value of listening.

I had a guy come in the store wanting to purchase speakers. He specifically said, “I need good speakers and I don’t want you to be too technical. I don’t like technical,” to which I responded with “well the frequency range of this set is 20 Hertz — 20 kiloHertz.” He came back with a curt, “I asked you not to be technical,” and walked out of the store. I went to my boss and told him what had happened. He laughed and told me it wasn’t normal for people to know what frequency response was. I thought that it was basic knowledge. But I was wrong.

I then learned that it’s critical to listen, ask questions and assess the other person’s level of knowledge before I start talking. This lesson I apply to this date. Especially when managing the health of patients from all walks of life and literacy levels. The majority of times, patients are not aware of healthcare jargon. Doctors should be very aware of different literacy levels, communicate in layman’s terms and allow patients to ask questions.

Are you working on any new or exciting projects now?

Always! Just to name a few, we’re looking at how a new natural substance (from plants) works with red light to damage cancer cells in a way that people don’t feel any side effects.

A second project I’m involved right now, we’re having patients and professional athlete clients working out using magnetic fields in order to study how it improves the range of motion in stiff joints. It’s been incredibly revealing and it’s something so simple and that can be achieved very inexpensively as well.

A third project in the works has to do with microbiome analysis of the saliva and mouth, to identify risks for cancers of the blood, lower digestive tract and urogenital tracts.

Last but not the least, we’re learning how to increase muscle strength in cancer patients so they have healthier and stronger bodies to fight cancer.

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story about that?

Sure! Personally, I’m grateful for my mom, just for raising me and believing in me every step of the way. There are lots of stories I could tell you about her. But my uncle also helped me come to a realization about my capabilities at a very young age. My family was so proud because I was earning more money than anyone in the family had ever had, and I was really paving my own way. One day, I was talking to my uncle was sharing proudly that I could install car stereos. He then asked me what I thought about my cousin. I told him that he’s okay but that I didn’t think he was too smart. Then, my uncle replied: “your cousin can install car stereos”. My uncle wanted me to think beyond my environment and surroundings and instead of looking at what I could do now, he wanted mt to consider things beyond that. It was then when I realized that some skills that I thought were a big deal, weren’t that big of an accomplishment compared to what I could be doing. That moment was a big realization for me at that age.

Professionally, I learned a lot from all my mentors regarding how to look at problems in different ways and solve them. I’d been studying hormones while at the Penn State Center For Sports Medicine Laboratory for years, we thought hormones controlled everything. Later, I met a scientists from Appalachian State and he shared that the blood markers were just snapshots in time; that other measures were more critical indicators of change. This taught me to reevaluate the importance placed on hormones. And I learned at that time that clinical findings should be correlated with other systemic factors. For example, if your testosterone levels are higher, but muscle mass isn’t up and body fat down, then you’re not getting the best results. But your hormone markers alone won’t tell you this.

Can you share your top three “lifestyle tweaks” that will help people feel great?

Sure. And probably you heard them a lot: Get better sleep. Eat a wider variety of foods. Move every day-several times a day. Those are classic and should be done. However, the difference on how we do them to change people’s health and positively impact their lives, is actually much easier and more powerful: incorporating brain mapping movement patterns into my day, 3 times a day. This is something like hip, shoulder, ankle circles while on one leg with your eyes closed. Every client/patient gets a special brain mapping exercise regimen to address different physical challenges they are facing with their bodies and they love it.

Is there a particular book that made an impact on you? Can you share a story?

I really enjoyed “Rich Dad, Poor Dad,” by Robert Kiyosaki and “Think and Grow Rich,” by Napolean Hill. A book relating to the medical industry that really impacted me was, “The Undying Soul: A Cancer Doctor’s Discovery,” by Dr. Stephen Iacoboni. I was connected to him by one of his former patients, and after talking with him via phone then eventually meeting, I looked for his book. Dr. Iacoboni’s book really showed me that very intelligent medical professionals should show that they care. He taught me the meaning of the word empathy, and that doctors and patients can connect at a human level. Especially in the healthcare world where everything is about numbers and clinical markers. It was refreshing because I’ve seen many oncologists with poor bedside manners.

If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of wellness to the most amount of people, what would that be?

I’d start a movement that everyone gets free bloodwork done every six months. Unless of course something is required sooner. This database of information would be used to help everyone beat diseases worldwide, for free. With this, everyone could contribute their gifts that’d improve Earth’s future for all mankind. It’s just hard to be at your best if you’re not healthy.

However, most cancer patients are dying because they are receiving the wrong treatment, not from cancer. Here is when personalized medicine comes to play. There are certain protocols that should be part of the gold standard of care when treating cancer patients but unfortunately, they are not.

How have you used your success to bring goodness to the world?

We have helped lots of people enjoy the life that they didn’t know they would see or could have again. Our doctors are challenged to improve patient results on a daily basis. And we do make that happen.

One of my favorite stories is about a patient who came to us, in a wheelchair. He had ALS, and hadn’t walked in two years. In front of the family, I asked our exercise physiologist if he’d ever worked with a patient with ALS. He said, “no.” I asked another physician the same question. Again, got another “no”. I told them both this was a wonderful opportunity to show the family how great we are. “I want him walking in 7 days,” I said. The family thought I was just joking. My staff thought something was wrong with me. But just 7 days later, that patient was walking and carrying his wheelchair up a flight of stairs. He wanted to show me just how strong he had become over such a short amount of time. The family asked me how I knew he could do this when everyone else had always said there was nothing else they could do. I told them: “I never lower my standards”. We don’t help people by feeling sorry for them and letting them continue to do what has never worked in the past. I’m going to connect with my patients by any means necessary, whether that’s pushing them, carrying them in my own arms or coming from whatever angle or approach — we just make it happen because I didn’t give my team another option. This family was so grateful, that they sent New York (my home state) cheesecakes to everyone in the building as a thank you. You don’t get NY cheesecake in Arizona that often!

Another quick story, we had a cancer patient that was doing very well, she leaves our facility and later returns in terrible shape. She’d aged what looked like decades and couldn’t even walk. She was in a wheelchair. Her cancer had truly eaten her body away, and she physically couldn’t stand. I was just telling her to get ready to throw that chair away when Dr. Matt walked by. I told him I expected her to be walking in 1–2 days. He kind of laughed it off and said: “Sure, no pressure, Tom!” But I knew he could do it. And he did it. She was walking again just 24 hours later. She’s never needed the wheelchair since. It’s been 1 year, and she tells everyone about her transformation. I studied and I know the potential of the human body and these are the kind of events that fuel me every day.

What are your “5 Things I Wish Someone Told Me Before I Started” and why — please share a brief story or an example of each thing you have learned:

I grew up in a negative environment. Crime. Poverty. Violence. People were dying around me. The people in my community had little to no ambition or dreams. It’s hard not to get consumed by that make poor choices so, I learned on my own the importance of:

– Look beyond your surroundings.

– Think bigger.

– Stay focused.

– Never forget where you came from; it grounds you and prevents your head from getting too big.

– Do brain mapping exercises three times a day, every day. This results in healthier movement and less physical problems as we age.

Can you please give us your favorite “Life Lesson Quote”?

“You can die for your country, but I’m gonna live for mine.” This is from a movie called Lone Survivor and deals with difficult challenges soldiers face in war, but I love how it relates to cancer patients I see every day. Cancer patients say they’ll do what it takes to fight for their life. Pain and discomfort make them want to give up. I always tell them to fight to live. When you give up, things go south quickly.

Is there a person in the world, or in the US whom you would love to have a private breakfast or lunch with, and why (think business, VC, entertainers, personalities):

I’d love to have a private breakfast with the President of the United States because I could show him how much better we could be helping Americans and eventually, the world by improving healthcare and education. Right now, healthcare isn’t about optimal health — it’s about convenience for practitioners and optimal billing. Education truly isn’t educational, we are teaching outdated concepts and approaches to people of all ages. Those are topics I would love to discuss because it would help us save more lives and create more wealth for more people..

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