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“A Thought Leader is a person who can think outside the box” With Prof. Margaret Rogers Van Coops, Ph,D

As part of our series about how to become known as a thought leader in your industry, I had the pleasure of interviewing Prof. Margaret Rogers Van Coops, Ph,D. Prof. Van Coops is a Professor, Keynote Speaker, Lecturer, Teacher and Minister. Thank you so much for doing this with us Margaret! Our readers would love […]



As part of our series about how to become known as a thought leader in your industry, I had the pleasure of interviewing Prof. Margaret Rogers Van Coops, Ph,D. Prof. Van Coops is a Professor, Keynote Speaker, Lecturer, Teacher and Minister.


Thank you so much for doing this with us Margaret! Our readers would love to “get to know you” a bit better. Can you briefly share with our readers why you are an authority about the topic of thought leadership?

I have studied psychology, psychiatry, general education, paranormal issues, modern therapies and beliefs in religions of the world as well as Metaphysical studies. I have spent over 50 years teaching in countries around the world. My Japanese students are now fully trained to help people and it is my hope that I will be able to train Americans to do likewise and also to teach and train individuals who are ill, how to change their coding to the positive side where healing automatically happens.

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?

I have so many! When I was sixteen, I was a part-time nurse’s aide, helping people who were in a hospital to die. Some took years to leave, while others passed over quickly. During that time, I noticed many women were eaten up with rheumatism, and of course, came to learn that they were all angry and mean people who felt life had been bad to them. Then one day, I had to go to another floor to work and was told to take a bed pan to patient #4 in room 4. At that time, I did not see the significance of the number 4. Much later I realized that this patient was restricted, like being locked in a room. As I approached her bed to remove her cradle, I felt something was very wrong. When I lifted up the bedclothes, I found a very small woman lying on her front with her knees bent up under her. She was asleep. I awoke her and told her I had to have her use the bedpan. What followed was overwhelming for me. She was completely fixed in this position. She told me she had been buried in rubble from a bomb explosion and that she had been crouched like that for more than two weeks. When they removed her, no one could move her legs. She was traumatized and frozen in that position. In order to give her a chance to use the bedpan, I had to lift her tiny body face down onto the pan, which was very hard to do for her. Later, that day, I had a long chat with her to find out more about her life. I discovered she had previously had a fear of life and so the bomb explosion had brought that to the surface when her will to survive was locked into that physical position. My full sixteen years of life was as long as she had been stuck in this position. I talked about life and things I wanted to do to help people with her. She encouraged me to never stop helping people. Over the next few weeks we talked a lot; slowly I could see how her attitude to life was one of horror. I counseled her with my Spirit Guides hoping in some way, she would try to move, but there was not sign of this happening. I could not heal her. The last day of her life, I went to her to help her, when she looked into my eyes and said, “I have had enough like this, I want to die.” My response was, ask The Oneness to help. Well I guess she did, since she was not there when I came on duty a few days later. She had passed over in her sleep. My lesson was clearly understood! I had to deal with the negative attitudes of myself and others at home.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

When I was first sent down to surgery to bring a patient back up to the ward, I was trained to press under the jaw to stop a person’s collapse of the throat and suffocation. I was dreadfully fearful that my patient would die on me, so I pressed harder to ensure the airway stayed open. The next day, when I went to treat my patient, she pointed to her neck and asked me “How did I get this big bruise?” I immediately flushed, giving myself away, and she, like a good soldier, (war conscious still in her generation), said “Well, better a bruise than dead!” It turned out she was a nurse herself and she managed to make me laugh about mistakes that she had made, one of which was treating the wrong patient with a dose of medicine that fortunately had no side effects on that patient she treated. I later learned that many mistakes were made in hospitals in those days.

Ok, thank you for that. Let’s now jump to the main focus of our interview. In a nutshell, how would you define what a ‘Thought Leader’ is. How is a thought leader different than a typical leader? How is a thought leader different than an influencer?

In my opinion, this is a person who can think outside the box. A thought leader has to be aware of the variable changes that can happen in the blink of an eye.

I have seen people instantly change their attitude from hearing a simple word. People act irrationally in times of trouble, often overwhelmed with too many ideas, hopes and dreams of possibilities that could change their lives, but fear always holds them back. A leader should be able to see that, first comfort that person, and then slowly and lovingly lead them to see there is a different point of view to focus on. With so many self-imposed hypnoidal ideas, they are unable to see alternatives. I, as a leader, take them into a new dynamic of awareness by encouraging them to see outside their box and then further encourage them to make the leap. Then we watch healing occur and counsel and treat as needed. The idea behind all this is to make them feel safe and free to try anything that gives them joy in their life.

Can you talk to our readers a bit about the benefits of becoming a thought leader. Why do you think it is worthwhile to invest resources and energy into this?

The one thing that has kept me going in the face of adversity, is the joy of seeing those who trust me, listen, allow treatments, do their homework and come through the dark into the light side of self. Then healing always results according to how much they believe in The Oneness of all that is, including awakening to their own connection with their Ascended Masters and me to lead them. I often cry in joy when I see someone enjoying the things I am teaching them, and the way they excel. The heart does not lie, and truth can hurt, but ultimately, it can heal the body when the negative is released. Being a Thought Leader, is like bringing a ray of sun-light into a person’s eyes when they glisten with love.

Let’s talk about business opportunities specifically. Can you share a few examples of how your thought leadership has helped your business grow or create lucrative opportunities?

My experience has taught me that you can only help someone when they reach a crisis in their own beliefs. They are then ready to listen to alternatives. Any offer of help before then, is likely listened to and then discounted as a result of the fear of change and in moving into ascension with a new consciousness of existence. Having survived travel, pitching, writing, talking and demonstrating, in spite of the web, I have found that a classroom scenario is always the best. Also face to face workshops, with hands on activities is more exciting when you actually see changes occurring in every individual who attends. With today’s needs to learn on line, I confine myself to various topics of the times. Currently, I am learning to teach on zoom.com so that I can help more people around the world. But I will still hold physical events as time dictates. In my case, my life has not been about money, but about growth in experiences that many would probably avoid. Currently, I am learning to think globally, which means I need to make money to pay for the programs that entice people to seek help. I know this will become the normal, however, I fear for those younger ones who miss out on social interactions. In my opinion, physical workshops are vital.

Ok. Now that we have that behind us, we’d love to hear your thoughts about how to eventually become a thought leader. Can you share 5 strategies that you have done to become a thought leader in your industry. Please tell us a story or example (ideally from your own experience) for each.

  1. Intake is vital. By understanding the client/patient’s point of view, one is able to focus on the cure.
  2. Information about parents, siblings, extended ancestors, dead or alive is important in searching for clues to know how they accept help. Note, some may believe they do not need help for fear of being over-powered.
  3. Give free advice and direction that will lead to a fulfilling purpose and acceptance of change.
  4. Offer relative training along with therapy. This leads to the client becoming a student with a goal.
  5. Be available to answer client/patients question 24/7 within reason when peaks of fear, pain, anger, guilt, loss arise; provide counsel and hypnosis to calm while grounding their often unrealistic worry by dismissing its importance in replacing it with an alternative idea or feeling.

In your opinion, who is an example of someone who has that has done a fantastic job as a thought leader? Which specific things have impressed you about that person? What lessons can we learn from this person’s approach.

I first met some interesting people, who were considered up and coming, when I came to America to do Festivals of Mind, Body & Spirit, which eventually turned into Whole Life Expos back in the mid 1980’s. During my time, I met Wayne Dwyer who was just coming into his own, following a divorce. I sat with him and we chatted about his life. As I gave him some of his future and various ways to deal with his issues, he held my hands and looked into my eyes to say thank you. What I saw was his willingness to change and his subsequent transformation that led him to become known world-wide. His one issue that I sincerely believe he still carried, was anger, which I might add came from his early life and his mother’s womb. So, I was not surprised when I heard he had cancer and passed over. He was a fine man, typical of so many, who come to help change this world that we all live in. Here we saw ‘The Power of One’ in him and his teachers that blessed him as he worked. The last physical contact I had with him was when we were on a panel, expounding the importance of the psychic senses and their influences in healing. Just an interesting point to contemplate!

I have seen some discussion that the term “thought leader” is trite, overused, and should be avoided. What is your feeling about this?

I have lived long enough to see ‘words’ or ‘sayings’ that come and go as the moods of people rises and falls. Thought Leader says what it is! Someone who can think for you! My abilities as a Medium has provided just that. However, I have evolved to try to get people to see and focus on how to adapt, or when and where they can go to adapt, or what they need to do as soon as possible before they renege on their own promises, thus letting self down! Sliding back into oblivion can seem like the best choice to those who are afraid of life, never knowing what could have happen, had they stepped outside the box, deciding to refuse to grow, convincing self to believe they are safely trapped, despite their miserable life. I think any new term is used to awaken people to an old idea that previously they would have ignored. Personally, I do not use this term at all.

What advice would you give to other leaders to thrive and avoid burnout?

Stop trying to save the world or self and family. Instead seek out the things you love to do with friends who will introduce you to new ideas and new ways to do things that would not be taught by your family. When you have your topic of interest, make sure you get the best training in all aspects of helping others, since you will never know what they will throw at you until they sit before you. To avoid burnout, stay calm and tranquil at all times. With family issues, do not respond in arguments. Put aside blame and shame issues and focus on your own spiritual growth, finding ways to mellow your unbalanced emotions. Remember that The Oneness, God, provides for you. “Ask and ye shall receive,” has worked for me throughout my life. When I was down and psychologically lost, they lifted me up, teaching me to see how negative and in rejection I was. Then came the big death scenario and I was back, awakened and ready to try anything new. New came in a trip to India, where people referred to me as a guru. Hmm!

You are a person of enormous influence. If you could inspire a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂

I would find people with money, good teachers and philosophers, counselors and therapist, doctors, lawyers and list goes on of people who together could build a university of study for future generations to come where good standards of alternative healing and medications are natural. This entity would grow according to the needs of the world which could be a foundation, a satellite group in every country and so much more. I am sure when the world is ready, people who are drawn to do this will come together to make this happen. We have come a long way in learning about destruction of the body in war, health, hospitals and so on. It is time for a change in the way we see healing happening.

Can you please give us your favorite “Life Lesson Quote”? Can you share how that was relevant to you in your life?

Sir Winston Churchill: Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

If you’re going through hell, keep going. Never, never, never give up.

My father actually met Sir Winston Churchill in Margate, during the war when he was working on signals with Morse codes, running miles of wire to protect the south coast from invasion. Dad was an officer and Sir Winston enjoyed a joke or two with him.

We are blessed that very prominent leaders in business and entertainment read this column. Is there a person in the world with whom you would like to have a lunch or breakfast with? He or she might just see this, especially if we tag them. 🙂

My years as a medium have taught me that when The Oneness wants me to meet someone, they lead me to them. I also know they do that in reverse too. Recently a woman was looking for a connection to me from a business card I had years ago, with an old telephone number. As she was searching through her emails, she found a friend had forwarded my name to her as a recommendation. To her that was amazing sign that she was supposed to contact me, and she did. We sorted out her issues and now she is following me on LI to make sure we stay in contact. My point here is that we meet who we are supposed to meet at the right time. So anyone wanting to know me, I welcome with open arms. I have worked with very famous people around the world, but must respect their privacy by not mentioning them here. I have mentioned a few famous dead people in my book: My Journey Into The Oneness.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

Here are my links:

www.sumariscenter.com

[email protected] for appointments

[email protected] for connections

www.webtalkradio.net/shows/journey-into-an-unknown-worl/ for ½ hr. topics talks given by me. No guests.

www.youtube.com/user/drmargaret & Dr Margaret Speaks & Journey Into An Unknown World my other youtube.com pages.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmargaretrogersvancoops/detail/recent-activity/posts/

https://www.facebook.com/drmargaretrvc

https://www.referralkey.com/?myprofile=1

Thank you so much for your insights. This was very insightful and meaningful.

I was happy to do this one. I love sharing and teaching. I also love traveling and meeting new people. Life is for living and seeking new truths for us all.

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